what an exceptionally craptastic monday night game

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · December 2nd, 2008, 12:04 AM

this is awful

**bdc** · December 2nd, 2008, 12:40 AM

They may have just hit the over. Who cares? When at any point in the last off season did this look like a good MNF match up? Having said that, I am watching the last 39 seconds.

**duckmeat** · December 2nd, 2008, 01:49 AM

Last offseason this did look like a good game. The Jags were thought to be contenders, and the Texans are steadily improving.

The Jags just looked like they didn't even care, didn't wanna play. They are crap. The whole foundation they built the past few years is about to get blown up this offseason as well. There are hard times ahead. Del Rio is a good guy, and good coach but I'm afraid he'll get the axe.

Bigger disappointment - Jags or Bolts?

**buckeye_fan** · December 2nd, 2008, 01:52 AM

Jags.
I almost had them going to the big one.

**duckmeat** · December 2nd, 2008, 02:05 AM

I agree with you but I think we are in the minority. I've been saying for awhile that LT was bound to have a less than stellar season sooner or later. Rivers IMO stinks, and Norv Turner is terrible as HC.

**Biggin** · December 2nd, 2008, 02:06 AM

SD is the bigger disappoint, they were legitimate SB contenders.

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · December 2nd, 2008, 02:08 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: duckmeat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree with you but I think we are in the minority. I've been saying for awhile that LT was bound to have a less than stellar season sooner or later. Rivers IMO stinks, and Norv Turner is terrible as HC.</div></div>
i agree on the LT part

just like seattle found out when alexander got hurt......you can only ride a great RB so long and you need other weapons which they dont have

rivers doesnt stink.......his WR corps does

as for norv........hes a great asst as has been proven over and over but hes an abortion as a HC

**duckmeat** · December 2nd, 2008, 02:25 AM

Rivers doesn't make any throws that make you stop and say "Man, not many others could do that." I might have overstepped when I said he stinks, but I don't think he is anywhere near being elite. Sortive a poor man's Hasslebeck. His WR corps got a little better by adding Chambers, but he isn't what he once was and Gates still doesn't look the same as he did before his injury.

Norv needs to get fired and go back to Dallas. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] They'll be needing a new OC soon anyway once Garrett gets upgraded.

**duckmeat** · December 2nd, 2008, 02:26 AM

Also forgot about Lorenzo Neal. Just remembered he isn't there anymore. How many consecutive 1000 yard backs did he block for? His absence is a huge part in LT's decline as well I think. Plus they are w/o Turner spelling him.

**BlueWahooChambordDevil** · December 2nd, 2008, 02:35 AM

neal blocked for somehting like 11 straight 1k yard backs

you are also correct about not having turner

rivers doesnt have to be elite.......hes good enough but he doesnt have any elite weapons

chambers isnt even a real #1 at this point in his career

chambers is as close to a #1 at this point as issac bruce is

get rivers a guy like boldin, colston, ward or even welker and move chambers to #2 and jackson to 3..........hes much better than he is now